CIL: Specialty engines
, Raul Valdes-Perez, Jefferey LaPlante
“what hasn’t changed much in seven years is how hard people are willing to work at searching” AP 10/04
Still only first page, 2.8 words per query, give up after 5 minutes
(GP)Commercial side realizes:
AKA vertical search, niche engines, usibility of data in a specialized interface
RUSA study – only 9% of in-library reference questions were answered with reference books
Students searching the web find more questions, not answers, and get a myopic view.
Book budgets are shrinking (ok, tell me something new)
43 publishers 170 titles – Cross searchable. Visualization tools.
Now he’s telling us we have to market library services. Duh.
(R V-P) Vivisimo
Bookstores vs. Electronic World
In a decent bookstore you don’t just see piles of things on the floor, things are in neat order on the shelf. In the electronic world, that’s not the case. You get a big pile. People have tried to fix this by applying rules from the print world – hierarchical listings. Doesn’t work.
He’s demonstrating clusty
– they’ve added Teoma, dropped Overture. Works on the fly, spontaneous, helps you discover new ideas,
Tabs for channels of information – there’s a new government tab. Click on details to see how many results from each resource.
Of the competing ways – refinement, extraction, or clustering – they’ve gone in for clustering.
Pitt has licensed this for the Digital library– they use a meta-search but it just gives them a pile of 25 from each database, not de-duped not integrated. W/clusty it groups and orders the results
Question from the audience – what is clustering – in 200ms the computer looks at the text of the results, finds common concepts, groups those sites together, creates heading on the fly.
Laura (a LJ Mover and Shaker
) pointed out something very interesting – how about a way to combine the folksonomies with the clustering? Maybe it could cluster the tags? Maybe the tags could inform the clustering – be weighted more heavily? Clusty does have a blog tab that searches Technorati—but I haven’t used it thinking about tags. Hmm. Have to come back to that.
Funny little note, they had a clip from me
on their site as negative feedback for their search! How great is that.
Update: I verified that it was my quote -- but it was from a forum, not my blog. It's linked above.